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Cuimhneachaidhean aig Pìleat Spitfire (2 de 10)
EXTERNAL ID
GB232_MFR_JOHN_NIVEN_02
DEIT
1986
LINN
1980an
CRUTHADAIR
John Niven
NEACH-FIOSRACHAIDH
Rèidio Linne Mhoireibh
AITHNEACHADH MAOINE
41165
KEYWORDS
luchd-iùil adhair
plèanaichean
an Dara Cogadh

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San earrann èisteachd seo on phrògram aig Rèidio Moray Firth 'Marshall a' Coinneachadh', tha Sam Marshall a' bruidhinn ri Iain Niven a bha na phìleat ann an Spitfire.

'Interviewer: Once you had finished there you went on to Ayr and joined 602 City of Glasgow Squadron?

Yes, yes.

Interviewer: And it was there that you got your first taste of war, so to speak.

Yes.

Interviewer: Although it wasn't in a flying way, was it?

It was rather under the floodlights, one might say, because of the Glasgow blitz, and one particular occasion when I was in charge of the floodlight on the airfield, which had to be switched on any time an aircraft came in, and it was a, I think the only way one could describe the feeling was naked - totally naked.

Interviewer: Because if anybody came past you got shot at?

Yes

Interviewer: And where on after that?

Well, the squadron was really recovering from the Battle of Britain at that time and they were re-equipping and getting new pilots - replacement pilots - and we were ready to go by about July. And we went from Ayr down to Kenley which is about 5 miles away from Biggin Hill, both of which airfields were heavily attacked during the Battle of Britain. Very active airfields.

Interviewer: It wasn't just as easy, again, as you've said because there were some difficulties there, were there not?

Well minor difficulties, in that the Squadron Commander and one of the Flight Commanders got lost on the way down and we finished up landing at Biggin Hill instead of Kenley.

Interviewer: I take that they did eventually turn up?

We did all get together eventually, yes.

Interviewer: One of the, I think you said, the Squadron Commander, was a very famous man indeed. Al Deere, wasn't he?

Well, Al Deere was a, he was a Flight Commander, and the Squadron Commander also was a famous pilot; he was a chap, Johnny Kilmartin, an Irishman who'd been with Al Deere in France before Dunkirk, and had seen a lot of fighting there, although it was fighting that hadn't been reported a great deal. The aircraft were flying well behind the lines and nobody seemed to see them.

Interviewer: What sort of people were they?


Well, I thing the best description perhaps is, 'press on' types. They were really very intelligent, courageous - it sounds an old fashioned term - but they were indeed very courageous in their fighting, and natural leaders, quite natural leaders. It wasn't difficult to follow them. And you simply, they were people that couldn't be let down - you couldn't let them down - and they were both excellent pilots, first class pilots.

Interviewer: This was the time after the Battle of Britain, the time of the offensive sweeps. What was an offensive sweep? What was it for?

Well, this was an attempt to pin down as many German aircraft as possible, in Northern France, and the AOC, the Air Officer Commanding, of Fighter Command, Sholto Douglas, was larger responsible for the initiation of these fighter sweeps, which was really to annoy the Germans, to get them to send up aircraft, to pin the aircraft in France, to pick very selected targets - there wasn't much of a bomber support at the time, probably three or four aircraft were available at any one time - Blenheims, Stirlings in some instances, Hampdens, any sort of bombers at all - but at least by dropping bombs on them they had to do something about it. And they therefore had to commit their fighters to this, a very large area to protect, and as the year went on this was quite early on, this was about February 41, but, of course, in June 1941 Germany invaded Russia, and it then became quite important to pin down as many German aircraft as we could in order to take the pressure off the Eastern Front. And so we stepped up the sweep effort, the circuses, and from sending across maybe three bombers with five or six squadrons, it developed into the recognised circus after that which really meant it could still be three bombers but it could be up to eighteen squadrons of aircraft escorting them.

Interviewer: That sounds overdone, somehow.

Well, it sounds overdone until you assess the reaction of the 'Hun' Air Force because they reacted quite violently and they - It became quite a set pattern. The whole set up was really almost standard after a while. It was well planned really, because the bombers were quite vulnerable by themselves. You couldn't possibly send three Blenheims over France, or six Blemheims over France by themselves, but if you put three squadrons of spitfires right round about them, and call it the 'close support', and then put another three behind them and call that 'escort cover', and then another lot over them and call them 'high cover', and another lot on top of that and call that 'top cover', and then have a target support group who went in, in front of you, and a rear support group who came out behind you, you're talking now in terms of eighteen squadrons of aircraft and, to make any impression on that, of course, the Germans had to put up a similar number almost.

Interviewer: Very clever.

And it's a lot of aircraft to be milling around.'


Rugadh is thogadh Iain Brown Niven ann an Dùn Èideann. An dèidh fhoghlam aig sgoil Sheòrais Heriot, chaidh e a-steach do ghnothachas an teaghlaich ag obair air mullaichean thogalaichean, Iain Low, Sglèatairean. B' e sgiathalaich, ge ta, a dheagh mhiann bho òige, agus aig aois naodh-deug san Òg-mhios 1939, chuir e a-steach ainm gu soirbheachail do Shaor-thoilichean Glèidhte an RAF (Volunteer Reserve). Chuir e steach airson Colaiste Feachd an Adhair ann an Cranwell agus fhuair e ann, ach mum b' urrainn dha tòiseachadh, chaidh èigheachd air san t-Sultain seirbheis a dhèanamh sa chogadh.

Tro bhliadhnachan a' chogaidh rinn e seirbheis chliùiteach san RAF, a' sgiathalaich Spitfires san RA, sna h-Innseachan agus ann an Iapan. B' e Ceannard a' Scuadrain ann an Scuadran 602 Baile-mòr Ghlaschu agus ann an Scuadran 485 Shealain Ùir. Bha e cuideachd a' sgiathalaich le 322 Scuadran Duitseach. Choisinn e an DFC (Crois na Sgiathalaich Cliùitich) le crann-tarsainn airson a dhìchill mhisneachail. (Tha crann-tarsainn air a chur ri ribean an DFC airson luchd-coisnidh a tha a' faighinn an dàrna duais.)

Às dèidh a' chogaidh chaidh Iain a-steach air ais do ghnothachas mhullaichean an teaghlaich, phòs e Dorothy Hood agus bha triùir chlann aca. Ghluais e a dh'Inbhir Theòrsa airson obair a dhèanamh ann an roinn na luchd-obrach aig UKAEA (Ùghdarras Lùth Atomaigeach na Rìoghachd Aonaichte) ann an Dùn Rath, mus deach e mu dheireadh a dh'fhuireach ann an Inbhir Nis na fhear-obrach aig an HIDB (Bòrd Leasachaidh na Gàidhealtachd 's nan Eilean).

Bha Iain fìor dhèidheil air goilf (chluich e bho bhacadh de 2) agus sna 1960an bha e na mheadhan air ath-ùrachadh is leudachadh a' chùrsa aig a' Mheaghrath faisg air Inbhir Theòrsa. Leig e dheth a dhreuchd ann an 1985 agus bhàsaich e san Dàmhair 1986. Tha a bhean, a mhac agus a dhithis nighean fhathast a' fuireach ann an Inbhir Nis 's an Inbhir Narann.

Airson stiùireadh mu bhith a’ cleachdadh ìomhaighean agus susbaint eile, faicibh duilleag ‘Na Cumhaichean air Fad.’
’S e companaidh cuibhrichte fo bharantas clàraichte ann an Alba Àir. SC407011 agus carthannas clàraichte Albannach Àir. SC042593 a th’ ann an High Life na Gàidhealtachd.
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Cuimhneachaidhean aig Pìleat Spitfire (2 de 10)

1980an

luchd-iùil adhair; plèanaichean; an Dara Cogadh

Rèidio Linne Mhoireibh

MFR: Memories of a Spitfire Pilot

San earrann èisteachd seo on phrògram aig Rèidio Moray Firth 'Marshall a' Coinneachadh', tha Sam Marshall a' bruidhinn ri Iain Niven a bha na phìleat ann an Spitfire.<br /> <br /> 'Interviewer: Once you had finished there you went on to Ayr and joined 602 City of Glasgow Squadron?<br /> <br /> Yes, yes.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: And it was there that you got your first taste of war, so to speak.<br /> <br /> Yes.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: Although it wasn't in a flying way, was it?<br /> <br /> It was rather under the floodlights, one might say, because of the Glasgow blitz, and one particular occasion when I was in charge of the floodlight on the airfield, which had to be switched on any time an aircraft came in, and it was a, I think the only way one could describe the feeling was naked - totally naked.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: Because if anybody came past you got shot at?<br /> <br /> Yes<br /> <br /> Interviewer: And where on after that?<br /> <br /> Well, the squadron was really recovering from the Battle of Britain at that time and they were re-equipping and getting new pilots - replacement pilots - and we were ready to go by about July. And we went from Ayr down to Kenley which is about 5 miles away from Biggin Hill, both of which airfields were heavily attacked during the Battle of Britain. Very active airfields.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: It wasn't just as easy, again, as you've said because there were some difficulties there, were there not?<br /> <br /> Well minor difficulties, in that the Squadron Commander and one of the Flight Commanders got lost on the way down and we finished up landing at Biggin Hill instead of Kenley.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: I take that they did eventually turn up?<br /> <br /> We did all get together eventually, yes.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: One of the, I think you said, the Squadron Commander, was a very famous man indeed. Al Deere, wasn't he?<br /> <br /> Well, Al Deere was a, he was a Flight Commander, and the Squadron Commander also was a famous pilot; he was a chap, Johnny Kilmartin, an Irishman who'd been with Al Deere in France before Dunkirk, and had seen a lot of fighting there, although it was fighting that hadn't been reported a great deal. The aircraft were flying well behind the lines and nobody seemed to see them. <br /> <br /> Interviewer: What sort of people were they?<br /> <br /> <br /> Well, I thing the best description perhaps is, 'press on' types. They were really very intelligent, courageous - it sounds an old fashioned term - but they were indeed very courageous in their fighting, and natural leaders, quite natural leaders. It wasn't difficult to follow them. And you simply, they were people that couldn't be let down - you couldn't let them down - and they were both excellent pilots, first class pilots.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: This was the time after the Battle of Britain, the time of the offensive sweeps. What was an offensive sweep? What was it for?<br /> <br /> Well, this was an attempt to pin down as many German aircraft as possible, in Northern France, and the AOC, the Air Officer Commanding, of Fighter Command, Sholto Douglas, was larger responsible for the initiation of these fighter sweeps, which was really to annoy the Germans, to get them to send up aircraft, to pin the aircraft in France, to pick very selected targets - there wasn't much of a bomber support at the time, probably three or four aircraft were available at any one time - Blenheims, Stirlings in some instances, Hampdens, any sort of bombers at all - but at least by dropping bombs on them they had to do something about it. And they therefore had to commit their fighters to this, a very large area to protect, and as the year went on this was quite early on, this was about February 41, but, of course, in June 1941 Germany invaded Russia, and it then became quite important to pin down as many German aircraft as we could in order to take the pressure off the Eastern Front. And so we stepped up the sweep effort, the circuses, and from sending across maybe three bombers with five or six squadrons, it developed into the recognised circus after that which really meant it could still be three bombers but it could be up to eighteen squadrons of aircraft escorting them.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: That sounds overdone, somehow. <br /> <br /> Well, it sounds overdone until you assess the reaction of the 'Hun' Air Force because they reacted quite violently and they - It became quite a set pattern. The whole set up was really almost standard after a while. It was well planned really, because the bombers were quite vulnerable by themselves. You couldn't possibly send three Blenheims over France, or six Blemheims over France by themselves, but if you put three squadrons of spitfires right round about them, and call it the 'close support', and then put another three behind them and call that 'escort cover', and then another lot over them and call them 'high cover', and another lot on top of that and call that 'top cover', and then have a target support group who went in, in front of you, and a rear support group who came out behind you, you're talking now in terms of eighteen squadrons of aircraft and, to make any impression on that, of course, the Germans had to put up a similar number almost.<br /> <br /> Interviewer: Very clever.<br /> <br /> And it's a lot of aircraft to be milling around.'<br /> <br /> <br /> Rugadh is thogadh Iain Brown Niven ann an Dùn Èideann. An dèidh fhoghlam aig sgoil Sheòrais Heriot, chaidh e a-steach do ghnothachas an teaghlaich ag obair air mullaichean thogalaichean, Iain Low, Sglèatairean. B' e sgiathalaich, ge ta, a dheagh mhiann bho òige, agus aig aois naodh-deug san Òg-mhios 1939, chuir e a-steach ainm gu soirbheachail do Shaor-thoilichean Glèidhte an RAF (Volunteer Reserve). Chuir e steach airson Colaiste Feachd an Adhair ann an Cranwell agus fhuair e ann, ach mum b' urrainn dha tòiseachadh, chaidh èigheachd air san t-Sultain seirbheis a dhèanamh sa chogadh. <br /> <br /> Tro bhliadhnachan a' chogaidh rinn e seirbheis chliùiteach san RAF, a' sgiathalaich Spitfires san RA, sna h-Innseachan agus ann an Iapan. B' e Ceannard a' Scuadrain ann an Scuadran 602 Baile-mòr Ghlaschu agus ann an Scuadran 485 Shealain Ùir. Bha e cuideachd a' sgiathalaich le 322 Scuadran Duitseach. Choisinn e an DFC (Crois na Sgiathalaich Cliùitich) le crann-tarsainn airson a dhìchill mhisneachail. (Tha crann-tarsainn air a chur ri ribean an DFC airson luchd-coisnidh a tha a' faighinn an dàrna duais.) <br /> <br /> Às dèidh a' chogaidh chaidh Iain a-steach air ais do ghnothachas mhullaichean an teaghlaich, phòs e Dorothy Hood agus bha triùir chlann aca. Ghluais e a dh'Inbhir Theòrsa airson obair a dhèanamh ann an roinn na luchd-obrach aig UKAEA (Ùghdarras Lùth Atomaigeach na Rìoghachd Aonaichte) ann an Dùn Rath, mus deach e mu dheireadh a dh'fhuireach ann an Inbhir Nis na fhear-obrach aig an HIDB (Bòrd Leasachaidh na Gàidhealtachd 's nan Eilean). <br /> <br /> Bha Iain fìor dhèidheil air goilf (chluich e bho bhacadh de 2) agus sna 1960an bha e na mheadhan air ath-ùrachadh is leudachadh a' chùrsa aig a' Mheaghrath faisg air Inbhir Theòrsa. Leig e dheth a dhreuchd ann an 1985 agus bhàsaich e san Dàmhair 1986. Tha a bhean, a mhac agus a dhithis nighean fhathast a' fuireach ann an Inbhir Nis 's an Inbhir Narann.